New Haven Independent

Posted by: New_Haven_Resident | March 16, 2009 11:39 AM

It is sad. But the community needs to start talking, and stop being affraid to talk. A few weeks ago another teenager got shot in Shelton Ave in the middle of the day. We all know someone saw a car take off, someone walking suspicious, SOMETHING. I'll ask the New Haven Community, to put theirself on the parents side. If it was you who lost a son or daughter due to gun's violence, wouldn't you want someone to talk.

Now they have a code that you can text and they don't have to contact you or know who you are.

Let's stop this TGV "Teenagers Gun Violence". Let's make a better New Haven.

Posted by: anon | March 16, 2009 11:48 AM

The NHPD said you can report tips anonymously at www.seeclickfix.com. You can report anything there without leaving any name, and the police officers say that even a small bit of information can help.

Posted by: robn | March 16, 2009 12:46 PM

abide by the code of Omerta (silence) and you bring it upon yourselves....I still haven't heard anything about the neighborhood kids who beat a neighborhood van driver into the hospital this summer...still silent?

Posted by: BorisT | March 16, 2009 12:51 PM

Enough thers to many single mothers out here,lets stop having kids!! stop trying to portray thats its allright to be a single mother well its not.You make life harder then it is already.Learn birthcontrol, please!!!!!!

Posted by: unprotected | March 16, 2009 1:05 PM

tyrone dunmore said cops are afraid of these young men... i think cops are afasrid of their irrational decisions and inability to think actions through before reaching for thier triggers. if the "young men" acted like men and took responsibility for their actions, cops would have respect for these kids and try working with them. right now, if the kids csant respect themselves or human life, how can they expect to be respected themselves?????

Posted by: Wow | March 16, 2009 2:55 PM

The crime in new haven will stop as soon as the liberals stay out of our lifes. the cops are not affaird of the criminals, they can care less who is beefing with who. when a cop cares and does his/her job we the public do not back them up. we say we do but it is in the comfort of our homes. if i am heard in public that i support the cops i would be laughed at. think not? then why when a community has a pray march or stop the violence march 12 people show up? but have a cop shoot someone in self defense, you always see hundreds of people at the police dept or city hall demanding the cop get arrested.

Posted by: Wow | March 16, 2009 3:03 PM

for the folks who will post and tell me that there are bad cops in new haven and across this great nation, i say to you, you are right. i will also tell you there are some bad people in new haven and across this great nation and all bad things come to an end, with prison time or with a bullet. lets start rapping about what is really killing us, OURSELVES, ITS NOT THE COP. see ya at the next march.

Posted by: D.J. Terrible T | March 16, 2009 5:00 PM

As usual when someone makes a comment and the word cops is included right away those who think they know but don't know the individual make the wrong statement based on a belief, however I know this brother Tyrone Dunmore personally since he was a child and was there. He was talking about the parents and adults of the community being scared not the cops! He has always advocated the parents,adults and the community as a whole policing, being responsible and being actively involved in the state of their communities. This brother does not point fingers or throw any stones at the police. As a matter of fact I know for a fact that some of his closest allies, associates and friends are in law enforcement in various departments in the state. So please know the facts and the individual before you make reckless comments because he supports ORDER and greatly respects the Police by principle so don't take it personal or out of context WOW. Just had to set the record straight that's all.

Posted by: Hood Rebel | March 16, 2009 5:26 PM

The article states: Several of the teens criticized the parenting -- or lack thereof -- of kids who get in trouble, while mostly defending their own biological or foster parents."

It's great that at least the KIDS can see that parents are a part of the problem. Yet these parents try to keep their heads in the sand and blame the "environment."

While there is a parallel issue of gun trafficking in the community, parents of gun-toting drug dealers have to get out of denial and face the hard facts that these kids were allowed to get away with too much sh*^ and now probably it's too late for them.

So we know that single parents are unbalanced, undereducated, underemployed, consumed with struggles of managing by themselves, stressed out, not reading to their kids every night, not building their kids self-esteem.. what the hell are we doing about that?

Posted by: Barbara | March 16, 2009 6:02 PM

BORIS, Frst of all you need tp really think about what you are saying. I am sure somewhere in your family there was a single mother in the group. You really think that birthcontrol is the answer maybe you need to re-evaluate the situation. unfortunately we all can't be born with a silver spoon in our mouths. I think some of yoyr statements are very ignorant and not been thought out properly. Yes, my cousin was a good mother to her son and a single mother at that like myself and I am doing a damn good job at raising him by myself!!!!! Thank you for your input but we don't need the smart remarks right now.

Posted by: birth control matters | March 16, 2009 10:23 PM

i didnt take boris' message to be rude. i took it for what it is: a true statement. it is true that we need more education about and access to birth control. single mothers are certainly not the cause of violence in our neighborhoods, but unplanned parenthood causes stress in people's lives. stress exacerbates poverty and stress complicates people's parenting skills and children's living situations. less children is less stressful and less children is less expensive. and birth control is the best way to have less children. peace.

Posted by: The Returner | March 17, 2009 12:22 AM

My heart bleeds for the youth of the City of New Haven. I find it to be incredulous that the clergy of the city have not summoned the churches to attend a summit specifically to address the plight of inner city youth. Someone in the city needs to step up and show true leadership to expatiate this scourge that is negatively consuming this city. This is not just a social problem, but it is a more importantly a financial problem, of which resources are available (Community Development Block Grants) depending upon who you ask. If the political leadership was active for their constituents as they are for themselves, perhaps then a positive difference would be evident. How many more funerals do these young people have to attend before true leadership steps up to the plate and tell the truth.
Shame on you elected officials, and shame on you clergy-

Posted by: Hmmm... | March 17, 2009 8:52 AM

The Returner said "Someone in the city needs to step up and show true leadership to expatiate this scourge that is negatively consuming this city."

I just checked the list and it had your picture next to the name 'Someone'. Yes, "shame" on the folks you listed but equal if not more shame on you for expecting 'Someone' to do your work.

NOTHING will change in this city (or in anything for that matter) if we keep sitting back waiting for 'Someone' to do it.

Posted by: Borist | March 17, 2009 10:46 AM

BARBRA I dont think my comment was rude all im saying is lets stop this rapper mentality that they sing about and these kids want to take as the norm.When i grew up i had a mother plus a father thats how god had intended it.I tired of hering about my babys momma mentality and ya ya ya,get the kids off the steet and keep them in the house and if that doesnt work maybe we should put them in the army and they can learn how to become a normal person and stop trying to be something they are not.

Posted by: The Returner | March 17, 2009 12:49 PM

In response to HMMM, the title "Returner" denotes that I no longer reside in the city/state. However, when I was living there these issues were at the forefront of my political and personal agenda. I assure you, that when and if I decide to return, I will pick up from where I left off, fighting for the people. As a former elected official from Beaver Hills, I would like to commend this paper for its in-depth reporting of areas in the city that would otherwise go unnoticed by "The Other Paper." Keep up the good work in your reporting.

Posted by: Alex | March 17, 2009 5:54 PM

We keep asking the Mayor and police what they are doing to stop the guns and the answer is silence! They give priority to busting prostitutes and sidewalk bikers, yet a teen can get a gun in his hands in a half hour. Also good community policing would likely have turned up those bits of info they need to solve the crimes.

We need a new Mayor and police chief!

Posted by: NHPS Teacher | March 18, 2009 6:52 AM

Worse than the rapper mentality is the catchphrase and acceptance that "snitches get stitches." People need to be brave and speak up about what they know about murders and other violent crimes. The "see-click-fix" suggestion is a good one to allow people to give anonymous tips.

We all need to understand that we are helpng our community when we speak up against those who are tearing it apart. We need to work together to create a society in which all are called on to help build up the community.

Posted by: Seth | March 18, 2009 5:36 PM

These boys do not know what a "Man" is. There are no men around them to serve as role models. There haven't been many positive father figures within the Black community for 30+ years.
Our young ladies gravitate toward troublemakers, and make the hasty decision of becoming mothers before they become "Women."
We need to do away with rental assistance programs and remove unemployment as an option. That is radical, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
The mentality of "school ain't for me," needs to be eradicated. To live is to learn, so if you are learning something that is practical to the 21st century world economy, then you can make a livable wage and be able start a family. Otherwise, our post high school aged population is lost. If you aren't going to college, where are you going?

One to grow on: Imagine if the Gun buy-back program paid twice as much as the gun was worth when it was brand new?